viking9000
ive got balls of steel...
Irish0400
1000% Agree with u. ;-)
Jesusjoy99
D'arcy james come back :(
XxgrayfoxXXX
This is a really good song..
Bigmalletrs
I must be the only person in the world that likes this song.
gruntreaper
fuck what has happened to music, the smashing pumkins dont really exist. why are all these scrubs in the band. fuck. this makes me depresed. you could tell billy corgan aint happy with this
jimencam
For the life of me I can not put my finger on it, the 90s came screaming raging into the decade with a complete all star list of musicians AIC, Pumpkins, Godsmack, Bush, Filter, Offspring, White Zombie, Nirvana Pearl Jam looked to bring forth a new era in Rock and willing to carry the torch from the bands in the 60s through 80s and Poof!!!!!!1 All Shit now.
Zedsdead1968
IM Tight! The ppl don't let me listne to any rock at high volume.!
14KoLaBaRs
hahaha, i cld totally tell too!! haha this was pretty fun tho, i mean i was just poking arnd with u too so hope there's no hard feelings! add me as a friend if u want, i'm really much more personable really! lolz, i just listen to music religiously is all, but i'm reminded of a quote cant remember who that said something like "post is a word invented by soulless corporate hacks hellbent on raping and aping a new musical revolution with shit" probably Lester Bangs,sounds self important enough
hashfromplan9
Must we etherize and pin everything to a board for dissection? The only genre that matters is the one you want to listen to.
ftroman
i'm just fucking with you dude lol, you just seemed like the kind of guy that has to be right all the time right off the back, i don't really care what genre anything is, i don't listen to everything from every genre i like, and at the same time, i listen to some stuff from genres that i don't like, i don't like the "post" stuff though, on the basis that most of the time, it ruins the name it tries to attach itself to if you were a fan of the original genre
militantofthewilling
id say the closest the Pumpkins ever came to true punk was "Glass' Theme" from Machina II
hashfromplan9
the Pumpkins are just Alternative, but they do look goth to some extent, but they're an amalgam of everything, Goth, Metal, Psychedelic, Progressive, a melange of everything really. surprisingly not much straight Punk in the Pumpkins sound tho.
hashfromplan9
"heavy metal" started out as a term in a steppenwolf song, i think nickelback could also be post-death metal lol, how would you classify smashing pumpkins, as they have punk roots, but weren't a part of the initial movement
militantofthewilling
"post-punk pop" as i have stated from the beginning it is only a term used to describe modern Alternative and Pop/Rock music in general in specific reference to the Rock Radio format.
hashfromplan9
obviously 500 characters aren't enough to adequately convey to you the message of the text itself. Nickelback are clearly very pop-oriented in their ballad approach, yet the roots of the band clearly show them as an Alternative Metal/Post-Grunge amalgam, with a heavy predisposition to post-grunge being the most prevalent feature of the band. as i said before there is no such subgenre as "post-punk-pop" it is only a lumping of terms used to describe the general nature of Modern Alternative music.
hashfromplan9
then modern would be the same as post, because "modern hardcore" isn't like the original hardcore, just as post hardcore isn't like the original, but i guess has some roots...somewhere, they aren't different enough, i found references to post-punk pop on wikipedia, though, not a page for the subgenre itself, but i did find post-punk, i doubt you know every subgenre in music, as there are probably a thousand, post-grunge may as well be pop, nickelback?
militantofthewilling
@militantofthewilling "Post" implies something that was influenced by the latter, without nessicarily being a part of it. "post-rock" is not rock music, therefore there is still Modern Rock and Post-Rock at the same time. same with Hardcore, or Post-Metal or Post-Grunge anything.
hashfromplan9
@militantofthewilling u cld but it would lead to no basis for an actual discussion on the matter, correct? it's used as a term, it was and never has been a genre, terms used by the media are not the same as genres used by music journalists or music aficionados. and Emo and Goth are not related to one another, only in the fact that theyr both subgenres of punk. methinks ur arguing for the sake of argument.
hashfromplan9
you started arguing with me lol, but modern hardcore is after actual hardcore, how can you have a post and modern of the same subgenre? i never said based on clothing style, people who are into death metal usually wear all black, so i don't know how you got that assumption, based on general themes and musical style, emo and goth are pretty similar, they use post-punk pop on the "rock" radio stations around here all of the time, and really, i could make up any genre right now if i wanted to
militantofthewilling
talk with Thomas Erlewine if u want to argue abt semantics as i'm not interested. modern hardcore wld be Modern Hardcore, Post-Hardcore and Emo are intertwined so closely both terms cld be used interchangeably. u were implying that because modern Emos wear all black they must be connected to goth and u were wrong. dont try to change that now. Blink-182 are Pop-Punk, 'll say it again, there is no such genre as "post-punk pop" & there never will be, probably i'd keep my arguments to thrash vids
hashfromplan9
Who gives a shiz? listen to what you like to listen to, it doesnt matter what the "definition" of the genre is, stop spamming comments with that Pl0xeRz =D
RyougaSadou
some kid, eh? lol always liked thrash more, but i do know what punk is, and i know that blink 182 would be considered post-punk pop ;) but i never compared goth to hardcore, i compared it to emo, it came after punk, but before emo, modern hardcore is technically post-hardcore as it isn't the same as the original hardcore punk, emo is closer to modern hardcore than the hardcore punk of the 80's based on structure, so if you want to talk semantics, emo would be post-post-hardcore, hm?
militantofthewilling
lmao, omg really i'm getting schooled about the definitions of punk by some kid who's entire knowledge of punk probably consists of a vast collection of Blink-182 records. what a joke. Emo is modern Post-Hardcore, goth has nothing whatsoever to do with Hardcore and it never did. goth was an offshoot of post-punk itself, not hardcore as Emo most certainly is. what you're confused by is the fashion sense which came from the DC scene kids that followed Husker Du around in the 80s
hashfromplan9